Part 1: Tahiti

Part 2: Rapa Nui

Part 3:  Santiago

Part 4: Pucon

Part 5: Sailing Through Andes

Part 6: A Wonderful Voyage

Part 7:Trekking Torres Del Paine

Part 8: Unpleasant Conversation

Part 9: Ushuaia

Part 10: Perito Moreno Glacier

Part 11:Buenos Aires

Part 12: Iguazu Falls

Part 13: Back to Buenos Aires

Part 14: Peninsula Valdes

Part 15: Mendoza

Part 16: Lima-Cusco 

Part 17: Sacred Valley of Incas

Part 18: Machu Pichu

Part 19: Puno and Lake Titicaca

Part 20: Adios

 

 

 

 

 

 

Part 8: Unpleasant Conversation
 

11 November 2003
Around 4 PM I returned to Puerto Natales from Torres Del Paine. All my bones and muscles were aching - just took a hot shower and a short nap. Afternoon - checked email and then had a good dinner - Tina and Jasper had plan to have dinner with me, but unexpectedly, on the road, they met neighbours of Jasper’s parents -an elderly couple whom Jasper had known all his life - it was a sweet surprise for him - so Tina and Jasper had to go with them. After dinner I returned to Nancy’s - Louis (a London cop)-Sharon and Sam and Jackie (Aust) were talking around the dining table and made me join them - I went to bed around 1 AM.

12 November 2003

Tina and Jasper left for Ushuaia via Punta Arenas. Sam and Jackie will go the same way the next day, while Sharon Louise and Margaret will head for Calafate next day. I had the same plan to go to Calafate first, but when I found out that flight from Calafate to Ushuaia is expensive and the Bus will again have to go via Puerto Natales - I changed my plan and decided to follow Sam and Jackie next day - to Ushuaia via Punta Arenas (1 night stopover).

Finished my diary for the Puerto Mont to Puerto Natales Voyage.

After dinner, again we (Sharon-Louise, Jackie-Sam, Margaret and me) were sitting around the dining table chatting - they were also drinking some wine. Sharon is normally a whinger, complaining type, and most of her talks borders on cynicism. At some stage a little intoxicated Sharon started asking me a lot of question about how my family and me migrated to Australia - while it is so hard for them to migrate from UK, etc. At first I was just answering her question, but soon I was raging inside - from the nature of her questions and her tone -

I got very cold and told her: Look lassie, you are questioning me as if I have trespassed into your father's property - first of all Australia is no body’s fathers property, least of any people from a little island at the corner of Europe.

She and Louise were shaken by this unexpected response, and started apologising - saying that she did not mean anything like that - it was just her frustration.

I was still quite angry, I continued - for us to qualify for Australian migration and to get a job in Australia, we need to be at least twice as competent and qualified than an European - I qualified under that stringent Australian migration law and you did not qualify under a more lenient criteria - that’s the fact of life, you like it or not.

Sharon’s head went down and she left the table - not to return again. I also went away for a while - to have a smoke and cool down.

When I returned, it was now intoxicated Louise - who was now raving - how all the immigrants and the refugees are overburdening the British social welfare and national health systems - few, in a dubious way, were even raking the system - he was blaming them for his grandmother's inability to get a date for a minor operation through the national health system (while she has paid tax all her life), and so on. By then Margaret has left.

I was just listening; I had no intention to join that discussion.

At some stage Jackie asked me what were my view on these issues -

I said, I definitely have a very different and a long term historic perspective on these issues, if you want to hear it, I will tell you - they eagerly nodded, and I started:

To begin with, what Louise’s generation and for that matter his grandmother's is facing, is a combination of firstly, the residual problems and legacy, left over from the British empire (in short -they are getting the butt end of the empire) and secondly, the inevitable failure of the British Social welfare system that was designed in the hay days post war boom, when west had the absolute monopoly of industrial production, which was never sustainable in the long run, in the face of inevitable competition from the emerging nations - first, Japan, then Korea, and now the waking Chinese and Indian Giants - history shows that no nation or groups can monopolise knowledge or advantage for a very long time.

The problem is further compounded by the ageing population in the developed countries, which paradoxically is a by product of development, result of advances in health and medical sciences. These advances are making people live longer and also making treatments more advanced but expensive. Thus sky-rocketing both public pension and healthcare costs. On the other hand, falling birth rate in the developed countries, largely, again due to the pressure of fast paced so called developed lifestyle, - creating an increasing shortage of young people entering the workforce. A huge demographic shift is taking place, if it continues, in a few decades only about a third of the population will be working and paying tax in most developed countries, paying for the social benefit of the other two third (children and retirees) - which would be absurd. This is the biggest challenge for all the developed countries - not only to find a solution to this complex problem, but also to make it politically palatable for a population who got so used to it.

This demographic shift, and demand for young workers are already driving some of the illegal and legal migration to the developed countries, often tacitly encouraged by the big businesses, which prefer to operate in a less tighter labour market. Combined with the wealth and wage differentials between the developed and underdeveloped countries, this trend is likely to increase manyfold.

However, this kind of economic migration is nothing new - people flocked to India and China for thousands of years (British were the last one) - people migrated to Persia, to the Roman empire, Ottoman Empire, Byzantine Empire - wherever  the center of wealth was at the different points in history.

With regard to Louise's point about dubious activities of some migrants, I said: If you compare how a eight shilling a year clerk named Robert Clive returned from India as a millionaire (well recorded in the British Customs documents) - or compare it with all the looted jewels and artefacts on proud display at Tower of London and British Museum, and all the wealth Britain has accumulated by exploiting its colonies - which allowed it to invent a five day long game called Cricket -- these petty crimes of few  immigrants are absolutely microscopic.

Louise's Jaws dropped, I continued: however, if you consider few other historic facts, even at the butt end of the empire your generation is far better off - for example, without the empire, all those         400-500 odd millions (those who migrated to USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand etc.)  of additional people would be living in the British Islands, probably sinking it – in exchange of that you got only few million migrants, relatively a few drops only.

Louise did agree to the factual scenario with a dropped head, and said you old bastard got all the answers.

I said ' no I do not know the answers, I just try to understand socio-political issues from a historic perspective, because I know that HISTORY and NATURE PLAY OUT IN GREAT SWEEPS OF TIME - in that scale things can not be assessed by looking through a narrow  timeframe of one's lifetime or even lifetimes of a few immediate generations - root cause of many issues were planted many hundreds or even thousands of years back, subsequent random events shaped it to its current form, over which humans have very little control - although, they have some uncontrolled influence from their half understood or misunderstood reactions to the issues of their times.
 

Everybody became pensive, and we retired soon after.

At bed, I was thinking - are Sharon and Louise racist, I think not. They are like ordinary people everywhere else - their curiosity is limited to their day to day life, their only intended or unintended source of knowledge is manipulative media (controlled by few elites), which they care to read or listen. And with that little knowledge, they seek answers to their woes - generally ending up finding scapegoats for a complex problem they did not have any understanding of - it is also definitely tempered by the natural human tendency to blame others. I have seen different manifestations of the same attitude among Indians, Bangladeshis, Chinese, Singaporeans - you name it - source is common - ignorance and human nature.

I was also thinking, were the British any worse than the earlier empires, again probably not very different - same age old game of power-politics , which started with the first formation of a tribe or village - with the passage of time it just got bigger, bloodier and complex.

Only thing is that, with the spread of knowledge and it is probably getting tougher to dupe the ordinary masses - OR IS IT?

Next morning, both Sharon and Louise sought me out to bid smiling farewells with the wish to meet again - they were leaving for Calafate in an early morning bus.
 

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